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C H A P T E R 6
GENERATION NO. 6
70. Jakob 6 KILZ <See pg. 16> (Peter5, Jacob's4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 18 Jan 1811 in Henau, Germany. He was the son of Peter KILTZ and ________ WIFE. Jakob died 5 Oct 1872 in Henau, Germany.
NOTES for Jakob:
CHURCH AFFILIATION: Evangelische.
OCCUPATION: Farmer.
NOTE: From the book, HENAU GESCHICHTE EINES HUNSRUCKDORFES, Von Walter Glockner, 1987, that I received from my Kilts "cousin", Hermann Kilz, Ortsburgermeister, Henau, Germany, on my visit to Henau, 9/95 (HWW).
1840 Census
7.6 Einwohnerliste von 1840.372)
Ltd......................................... Leb.
Nr. Name Stand/Gerwerbe jahr Rel. Strasse
149. Jacob Kilz Ackerer 29 ev. Unterdorfstr. 23
150. Elisab. Beck dessen Frau 21 ev. Unterdorfstr. 23
151. Elisab. Kilz Tochter d. Kilz 2 ev. Unterdorfstr. 23
152. Jacob Kilz Sohn d. Kilz 1/4 ev. Unterdorfstr. 23
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There are also some other Kilts' listed in this census and I'm enumerating them here until I find out their relationship to the above (HWW):
252. Peter Kilz jr. Ackerer 40 ev. Unterdorfstr. 41253. Anna Elisab./ dessen Frau 32 ev. Unterdorfstr. 41254. Jacob Kilz Sohn d. Kilz 11 ev. Unterdorfstr. 41255. Peter Kilz Sohn d. Kilz 4 ev. Unterdorfstr. 41256. Anna Elis. Kilz Tochter d. Kilz 2 ev. Unterdorfstr. 41257. Magdalena/ Dienstmagd 16 ev. Unterdorfstr. 41Droschel258. Peter Kilz alter Altvater 66 ev. Unterdorfstr. 41
He married Elisabeth BECK 12 Jan 1837 in Germany. She was born 19 Jul 1819 in Henau, Germany. Elisabeth died 6 Sep 1861 in Henau, Germany.
NOTES for Elisabeth:
CHURCH AFFILIATION: Evangelische.
312. f i. Elisabeth KILZ, born 1838 in Henau, Germany.313. m ii. Jacob KILZ, born 1840 in Henau, Germany.+ 314. f iii. Katherina KILZ, born 30 Aug 1843, died 21 Jan 1916 <See pg. 167>.
71. Maria (Mary)6 SNELL <See pg. 17> (Susannah5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 15 Nov 1768 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY. She was the daughter of Pieter Jost SNELL and Susannah (Anna) KILTS. Maria died 19 Apr 1817 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 21 Apr 1817 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Maria:
BIRTH: Snell's Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY.
DEATH: Aged 48 years 5 months 4 days.
BURIAL: Upper Snells Bush Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
Husband, Casper J. Lipe buried in Brownville Cemetery, Jefferson Co., NY USA.
FAMILY: Gravestone tells that she left 3 children to mourn her loss. Names of children not known. Casper J. Lipe is not buried with her nor are any of
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her children unless under a different name (HWW).
(CTS) "There are, however four possibilities for those three children. Of those, Margaret seems sure ("born to Casparus Leib and Maria"), and Mary, whose husband and son are buried in the Snells Bush Church Cemetery, also seems sure. Casper is a likely choice due to the connections in the Peter Snell's family with the Ellwoods.
Children, surname LIPE:
1. Casper, of Manheim, who m Polly Ellwood of Minden, Montgomery County, on 13 February 1820 (SJR). Polly was a sister of Catharine Ellwood who m Peter P. Snell as his 2nd wife. (ELLWOOD GENEALOGY)Or perhaps -Nancy, of Manheim, who was m. to William J. Enders on 2 April 1820 (SJR).They had a son, Nelson Lipe Enders, baptised on 27 October 1821 (SJR).2. Margaret "Peggy", b 22 August 1803 (MLC & ELLWOOD GENEALOGY).3. Mary, perhaps b about 1805"She married Casper J. LIPE 10 Mar 1800. He was born 1770/1771. Casper died 17 Dec 1845, and was buried in Brownsville, Jefferson Co., NY, USA.NOTES for Casper:BURIAL: Brownsville Cemetery, Brownsville, Jefferson Co., NY USA.
315. m i. ?Casper LIPE, born about 1801 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. He married Polly ELLWOOD 13 Feb 1820 in St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. She was born about 1800 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. She was the daughter of Isaac ELWOOD and Magdalena SCHNEIDER. Notes for ?Casper:MARRIAGE: Recorded: St. John's Reformed Church, St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY USA.+ 316. f ii. Nancy LIPE, born about 1801 <See pg. 167>.+ 317. f iii. Margaret "Peggy" LIPE, born 22 Aug 1803 <See pg. 167>.+ 318. f iv. Mary LIPE, born about 1805 <See pg. 168>.Casper also married (2) Elizabeth TIMMERMAN Nov 1829. She was born 22 Jun 1772 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY. She was the daughter of Henry TIMMERMAN, Lt. and Margaret BELLINGER. Elizabeth died 3 Feb 1858 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1858 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.NOTES for Elizabeth:BURIAL: Snells Bush Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
72. Joseph Peter6 SNELL <See pg. 17> (Susannah5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 29 Mar 1770 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY. He was the son of Pieter Jost SNELL and Susannah (Anna) KILTS. Joseph died 13 Sep 1854 in Stockbridge, Madison Co., NY, USA, and was buried 15 Sep 1854 in Stockbridge, Madison Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Joseph:
BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY.
RESIDENCE: Joseph P. had moved to Madison County in 1818 according to the inscription on his son Frederick's gravestone.
He married Anna Maria (Mary) SNELL about 1792. She was born 10 Nov 1768 in Ephratah, Fulton Co., NY, and was christened 12 Nov 1768 in Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY. She was the daughter of Johan Frederick SNELL and Catharine Elizabeth ZIMMERMAN. Anna died 17 Dec 1855 in
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Stockbridge, Madison Co., NY, USA, and was buried about 1856 in Stockbridge, Madison Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Anna:
BAPTISM: Recorded: Reformed Church, Stone Arabia, T-Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY. Baptized as "Anna Maria". Parents: "Frederick Snell jr, Catharina".
Sponsors: "John Nichol. Snell, Elisabaeth Helmer".
RESIDENCE: Joseph P. had moved to Madison County in 1818 according to the inscription on his son Frederick's gravestone.
+ 319. m i. Abraham Archibald Abram SNELL, born 15 Dec 1794, died 29 Jun 1875 <See pg. 168>.+ 320. f ii. Catharine SNELL, born 11 Sep 1797, died 24 May 1878 <See pg. 169>.321. f iii. Mary SNELL, born about 1800 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. She married ________ LOUCKS. He was born about 1800. Notes for Mary:NOTE: Thought to have married ________Loucks.+ 322. f iv. Elizabeth SNELL, born 8 Jan 1802, died 24 Nov 1875 <See pg. 170>.+ 323. m v. Frederick SNELL, born 16 Jul 1804, died 26 Aug 1873 <See pg. 171>.324. f vi. Eva SNELL, born about 1806 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. She married ________ OSTERHOUT. He was born about 1806. Notes for Eva:NOTE: Thought to have married ________Osterhout.+ 325. m vii. George SNELL, born 3 Jul 1808, died 19 Aug 1844 <See pg. 172>.+ 326. m viii. Absolom SNELL, born 19 Mar 1810, died 16 Apr 1854 <See pg. 173>.73. Peter P.6 SNELL, Sr. <See pg. 17> (Susannah5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 23 Apr 1771 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY. He was the son of Pieter Jost SNELL and Susannah (Anna) KILTS. Peter, Sr. died 25 Nov 1830 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 27 Nov 1830 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.NOTES for Peter, Sr.:BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim. Herkimer Co., NY.MARRIAGE: # 2 - St. John's Reformed Church, St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY USA.DEATH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.TOMBSTONE: Aged 59 years 7 months 2 days.He married (1) Anna (Nancy) ZIMMERMAN 14 Mar 1796 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. She was born 25 Sep 1778 in St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY. She was the daughter of William Conrad ZIMMERMAN and Catharine Jacob FAILING. Anna died 30 Jan 1818 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1818 in Manheim,(Page 63)
Herkimer Co., NY, USA.NOTES for Anna:BIRTH: St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY USA.DEATH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.Known children of Peter P. SNELL, Sr. and Anna (Nancy) ZIMMERMAN are: + 327. m i. Daniel Edward SNELL, Sr., born 5 Nov 1797, died Oct 1856 <See pg. 173>.+ 328. m ii. John Adam SNELL, born Feb 1800, died 24 Sep 1854 <See pg. 175>.329. f iii. Mary SNELL, born 11 Nov 1801 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, died 9 Apr 1887 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried Apr 1887 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.MARRIAGE: Unmarried.DEATH: At Snells Bush on the 12, Mary Snell, sister of Peter P. Snell, aged 84.BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.+ 330. m iv. Solomon SNELL, born about 1803, died 18 Sep 1884 <See pg. 176>.+ 331. m v. Alfred SNELL, born about 1804, died 14 Feb 1874 <See pg. 177>.+ 332. m vi. Simeon SNELL, born 21 Jul 1806, died 5 Aug 1888 <See pg. 177>.+ 333. m vii. Conrad Peter SNELL, born 30 Apr 1808, died 26 Apr 1888 <See pg. 179>.+ 334. f viii. Anna "Nancy" SNELL, born 6 May 1812, died 31 Dec 1891 <See pg. 180>.+ 335. m ix. Peter P. SNELL, Jr., born 21 Oct 1814, died 18 Apr 1891 <See pg. 181>.
Peter, Sr. married (2) Catharine ELWOOD 25 Jul 1818 in St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. She was born 10 Sep 1781 in German Flatts, Herkimer Co., NY, and was christened 7 Oct 1781 in German Flatts, Herkimer Co., NY. She was the daughter of Isaac ELWOOD and Magdalena SCHNEIDER. Catharine died 1868 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1868 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Catharine:
BAPTISM: Recorded: Reformed Church, T-German Flatts, Herkimer Co., NY. Parents: "Isaac Elwoeth, Magdalena". Sponsors: "Richart Elwoeth, Catharina".
DEATH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
BURIAL: Lower Snells Bush Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
Known child of Peter P. SNELL, Sr. and Catharine ELWOOD is:
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+ 336. f x. Eliza SNELL, born 12 Mar 1821, died 1898 <See pg. 182>.
74. Catharine P.6 SNELL <See pg. 17> (Susannah5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 13 Jan 1773 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY. She was the daughter of Pieter Jost SNELL and Susannah (Anna) KILTS. Catharine died 5 Jan 1851 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1851 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Catharine:
BIRTH: Snells Bush, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
DEATH: Snells Bush, Herkimer Co., NY USA. Local newspaper has death date as 5 Jan 1851, but her gravestone and family Bible says 5 Feb 1851.
BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
She married Adam H. TIMMERMAN 22 Oct 1793 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. He was born 1 Feb 1771 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, and was christened 24 Feb 1771 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY. He was the son of Henry TIMMERMAN, Lt. and Margaret BELLINGER. Adam died 29 Sep 1844 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1 Oct 1844 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Adam:
BAPTISM: Information from Genie Ann Ross.
BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
+ 337. m i. Peter A. TIMMERMAN, born 30 Apr 1794, died 13 Jun 1871 <See pg. 183>.+ 338. m ii. Jacob Adam TIMMERMAN, born 23 Aug 1795, died 6 Dec 1864 <See pg. 184>.+ 339. m iii. Henry A. TIMMERMAN, born 27 Apr 1797, died 12 Feb 1872 <See pg. 184>.340. f iv. Mary TIMMERMAN, born 26 Jan 1799 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. She married Simon Van DUSEN 26 Feb 1818 in NY, USA. He was born 15 Nov 1793 in Mohawk, Montgomery Co., NY, USA, and was christened 22 Dec 1793 in Mohawk, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. He was the son of Gilbert Van DEUSEN and Neltje Van ANTWERP. Simon died 12 Sep 1869. Notes for Simon:BIRTH: V-Fonda, T-Mohawk, Montgomery Co., NY USA.BAPTISM: Caughnawaga Reformed Church, Fonda, T-Mohawk, Montgomery Co., NY USA. Parents: "Gilbert Van Deusen, Neiltje Van Antwerp". Sponsors: None listed.Mary died 30 Jun 1851.341. f v. Nancy TIMMERMAN, born 25 Dec 1800 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. She married Henry LOUCKS, Jr.. He was born 30 Apr 1797. Henry, Jr. died 13 May 1830. Nancy died 22 Dec 1885 in Chittenango, Madison Co., NY, USA.342. m vi. David TIMMERMAN, born 24 Dec 1802 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. He married Susan STEVENS 31 Dec 1829. She was born 18 Jul 1811 in Oriskany, Oneida Co., NY, USA. Susan died 12 Apr 1903 in Utica, Oneida Co., NY, USA. David died 5 Jan 1881 in Utica, Oneida Co., NY, USA.
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+ 343. m vii. George TIMMERMAN, born 25 Nov 1804, died 4 Oct 1884 <See pg. 185>.344. f viii. Gertrout TIMMERMAN, born 3 Jun 1807 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. She married Isaac H. KETCHAM 1828. He was born about 1804/1805. Isaac died 18 Apr 1855 in La Crosse, WI, USA. Gertrout died 4 Jun 1875 in Tecumseh, MI, USA.345. f ix. Catharine TIMMERMAN, born 21 May 1809 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. She married George MARKELL 3 Jul 1828. He was born 19 Sep 1807. He was the son of Jacob MARKELL and Elizabeth SNELL. George died 11 Oct 1844. Catharine died 26 Aug 1898.346. m x. Benjamin TIMMERMAN, born 12 Jul 1812 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. He married Parmelia TIMMERMAN 2 Sep 1836. She was born 10 Jul 1818 in NY, USA. She was the daughter of David ZIMMERMAN and Mary FORBUSH. Parmelia died 13 Mar 1898. Benjamin died 24 Jan 1863.347. f xi. Delia TIMMERMAN, born 14 Jun 1814 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, christened 26 Jun 1814, died 19 Feb 1825 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1825 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.BURIAL: With her parents in Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
75. John Peter6 SNELL <See pg. 17> (Susannah5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 19 Apr 1774 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY. He was the son of Pieter Jost SNELL and Susannah (Anna) KILTS. John died 20 Aug 1854 in Shelby, Orleans Co., NY, USA, and was buried 22 Aug 1854 in Shelby, Orleans Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for John:
BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
RESIDENCE: John P. moved to Orleans County, NY, about 1816/1817.
BURIAL: Shelby Basin Cemetery, T-Shelby, Orleans Co., NY USA.
He married Mary "Polly" ZIMMERMAN about 1796. She was born 5 Jul 1781 in St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY. She was the daughter of William Conrad ZIMMERMAN and Catharine Jacob FAILING. Mary died 11 Sep 1851 in Shelby, Orleans Co., NY, USA, and was buried 13 Sep 1851 in Shelby, Orleans Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Mary:
BURIAL: Shelby Basin Cemetery, T-Shelby, Orleans Co., NY USA.
+ 348. m i. John Peter SNELL, Jr., born Jun 1797, died 8 Mar 1852 <See pg. 186>.+ 349. f ii. Nancy SNELL, born 14 Feb 1799, died 8 Dec 1876 <See pg. 187>.+ 350. m iii. William SNELL, born 22 Feb 1802, died 24 May 1861 <See pg. 187>.
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+ 351. m iv. Philip SNELL, born 15 Jun 1804, died 7 Dec 1860 <See pg. 188>.+ 352. f v. Catharine SNELL, born 12 Jul 1805, died 12 May 1887 <See pg. 188>.+ 353. f vi. Mary "Polly" SNELL, born 1808/1809, died 6 May 1879 <See pg. 189>.+ 354. m vii. Reuben SNELL, born 11 Jul 1812, died 1866 <See pg. 189>.355. f viii. Lucinda SNELL, born 14 Apr 1815 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, christened 25 Jun 1815 in Fort Plain, Montgomery Co., NY, USA, died about 1820.BAPTISM: Reformed Church, Fort Plain, T-Minden, Montgomery Co., NY USA. Parents: "Jno. P. Snell and wife Mary". Sponsors: "Peter W. Timmerman and Maria Snell".BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.356. m ix. Hiram SNELL, born 8 Nov 1818 in Shelby, Orleans Co., NY, USA, christened 13 Aug 1827 in Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. He married Elizabeth FARGE 17 Dec 1846. She was born 19 Jul 1826. She was the daughter of Daniel FARGE and Margaret DIEFENDORF. Notes for Hiram:BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.BAPTISM: Trinity Lutheran Church, Stone Arabia, T-Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY USA. Notation in church record: "Shelb". Sponsors: Daniel Schnell and wife Anna. (Johann Schnell, Anna, "Shelb", had 4 children baptized the same day: Nancy, b. 1/7/1820; Sally, b. 7/14/1822; Lucinde, b. 9/13/1824; Enjelinas,b. 4/8/1827.) (Which family is this? 2/1/1995 HWW).RESIDENCE: Greenville, MI, USA.357. f x. Rosina SNELL, born 9 Mar 1820 in Shelby, Orleans, NY, USA, christened 13 Aug 1827 in Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. She married Hiram FRARIE. He was born about 1820. Notes for Rosina:BAPTISM: Recorded in the records of Trinity Lutheran Church, Stone Arabia, T-Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY USA. (I think lived in Shelby, Orleans Co., at the time of birth so parents must have returned "home" to have child baptized. HWW). Sponsors: Salomon Snell and Ana Thum. She was called "Seine" at baptism. Her brother Hiram baptized same day.358. f xi. Elizabeth (Betsy) SNELL, born about 1822/1823 in Shelby, Orleans Co., NY, USA. NOTE: She was listed as a daughter in an 1838 Succession of Title deed.
76. Adam Peter6 SNELL <See pg. 17> (Susannah5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 7 Jan 1776 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY. He was the son of Pieter Jost SNELL and Susannah (Anna) KILTS. Adam died 15 Jun 1852 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 17 Jun 1852 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Adam:
BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY.
BURIAL: Snells Bush Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
TOMBSTONE: Aged 76 years 5 months 8 days.
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He married Elizabeth SNELL 4 Jul 1800 in Herkimer, NY, USA. She was born 7 Jul 1776 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY. She was the daughter of Johan Frederick SNELL and Catharine Elizabeth ZIMMERMAN. Elizabeth died 15 Aug 1867 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 17 Aug 1867 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Elizabeth:
BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY.
BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
TOMBSTONE: Aged 91 years 1 month 8 days.
359. m i. Benjamin SNELL, born 23 Feb 1801 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, died 30 Jan 1802.BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Montgomery Co., NY USA.DEATH: Cause: Scarlet fever.+ 360. m ii. Bernard SNELL, born 25 Sep 1802, died 21 Aug 1871 <See pg. 191>.361. f iii. Anna SNELL, born 13 Jan 1805 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, died 20 Dec 1850 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1851 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.MARRIAGE: Umarried.BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA, along with her parents.362. f iv. Mary SNELL, born 26 Jan 1807 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. She married Morris FREEMAN 2 Dec 1827 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. He was born about 1807. Notes for Morris: !FROM: Buffalo at time of marriage.Notes for Mary:MARRIAGE: By the Rev. I.S. Ketcham.RESIDENCE: Lived in Buffalo, Erie Co., NY, before marriage and after marriage moved to Vernon, Waukesha County, Wisconsin, USA. Was living there in 1852 when her father's will was probated.+ 363. m v. Peter A. SNELL, born 19 Nov 1808, died 14 Feb 1881 <See pg. 191>.+ 364. m vi. Levi A. SNELL, born 19 Oct 1810, died 20 Dec 1894 <See pg. 192>.+ 365. f vii. Catharine SNELL, born 30 May 1813, died 1 Jul 1879 <See pg. 192>.366. f viii. Elizabeth SNELL, born 24 Jul 1815 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, christened 20 Aug 1815 in Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY, USA, died 30 Dec 1898 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1899 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
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BAPTISM: Trinity Lutheran Church, Stone Arabia, T-Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY USA. Parents: "Adam P. Schnell and Elizabeth". Sponsors: "Daniel Schnell and Maria Schnell".MARRIAGE: Unmarried.BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Montgomery Co., NY USA, with her parents.+ 367. m ix. John Adam SNELL, born 14 Jun 1818, died 2 May 1894 <See pg. 193>.+ 368. m x. Hiram SNELL, born 5 Aug 1820, died 8 Sep 1858 <See pg. 193>.
77. Jacob Peter6 SNELL <See pg. 17> (Susannah5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 28 Oct 1777 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY. He was the son of Pieter Jost SNELL and Susannah (Anna) KILTS. Jacob died 5 Mar 1854 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 7 Mar 1854 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Jacob:
BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY.
DEATH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
BURIAL: Lower Snells Bush Cemetery, Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
TOMBSTONE: Aged 76 years 5 months.
He married Mary C. HELMICK about 1807. She was born 1783 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY. She was the daughter of John D. HELWIG. Mary died 4 Aug 1863 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 6 Aug 1863 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Mary:
BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY.
NOTE: Is surname spelled Helmick or Helwig? (Helwig is the German spelling? (HWW)
BURIAL:
Lower Snells Bush Cemetery, Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co. NY USA,
with her husband.
+ 369. m i. Gideon SNELL, born 21 Aug 1807, died 1901 <See pg. 194>.+ 370. m ii. Benjamin J. SNELL, born 31 Mar 1809, died 14 May 1903 <See pg. 194>.+ 371. m iii. Jeremiah SNELL, born 11 Jun 1811, died 29 May 1880 <See pg. 195>.+ 372. m iv. Jacob J. SNELL, born 14 Dec 1813, died 26 Mar 1889 <See pg. 196>.373. f v. Mary Ann SNELL, born 7 May 1816 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, died 18 Mar 1837 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1837 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.MARRIAGE: Umarried.DEATH: At her father's house, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
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BURIAL: Snells Bush Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.+ 374. f vi. Elizabeth "Betsey" SNELL, born 24 May 1819, died 28 Dec 1891 <See pg. 197>.+ 375. f vii. Lucina SNELL, born 3 Mar 1822, died 11 Jan 1902 <See pg. 198>.
78. Conrad Peter6 SNELL <See pg. 17> (Susannah5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 24 Oct 1779 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY. He was the son of Pieter Jost SNELL and Susannah (Anna) KILTS. Conrad died 23 Jan 1864 in Danube, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1864 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Conrad:
BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY.
MARRIAGE: Reformed Church, Fort Plain, T-Minden, Montgomery Co., NY USA.
BURIAL: Lower Snells Bush Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
TOMBSTONE: Aged 84 years 3 months.
He married Margaret BELLINGER 12 May 1815 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. She was born 5 Feb 1790 in Danube, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. She was the daughter of Johann Christian BELLINGER and Barbara DEVENDORF. Margaret died 25 Feb 1858 in Danube, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1858 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Margaret:
BURIAL: Lower Snells Bush Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
TOMBSTONE: Aged 67 years 6 months 20 days.
+ 376. m i. Christian SNELL, born 24 Apr 1816, died 10 Jan 1892 <See pg. 199>.377. f ii. Nancy SNELL, born 22 Sep 1817, christened about 1817 in St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. She married John P. SMITH. He was born about 1817. Notes for Nancy:BAPTISM: St. John's Reformed Church, St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY USA.RESIDENCE: (CTS) "Lived at Canajoharie, Montgomery Co., NY, per her sister Margaret's probate record.CHILDREN: None.+ 378. m iii. Peter B. SNELL, born 15 Apr 1820, died 15 Dec 1896 <See pg. 200>.+ 379. m iv. Rev. Nelson Lewis SNELL, born 20 Feb 1822 <See pg. 201>.+ 380. f v. Maria SNELL, born about 1824 <See pg. 201>.+ 381. m vi. Jacob SNELL, born 1827, died 25 Aug 1896 <See pg. 201>.+ 382. m vii. Isaac SNELL, born 19 Sep 1829, died 25 Apr 1912 <See pg. 202>.383. f viii. Barbara Margaret SNELL, born 18 Aug 1832, christened about 1832 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA, died 11 Jun 1884 in Canajoharie, Montgomery Co., NY, USA.BAPTISM: Lutheran Church, T-Minden, Montgomery Co., NY USA.
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MARRIAGE: Unmarried.DEATH: Date is 11 May 1884 according to the local newspaper, but 11 June 1884 per her probate record.
79. George Peter6 SNELL <See pg. 17> (Susannah5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 23 Mar 1782 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, and was christened 25 Mar 1782 in German Flatts, Herkimer Co., NY. He was the son of Pieter Jost SNELL and Susannah (Anna) KILTS. George died 19 Jan 1848 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1848 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for George:
BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co. NY.
BAPTISM: Recorded: Reformed Church, T-German Flatts, Herkimer Co., NY.
Parents: "Pieter Snell, Anna". Sponsors: "Georg Snell, Anna Eva".
DEATH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
BURIAL: Rural Park Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA, with his second wife, Margaret Snell.
He married (1) Anna Elizabeth MATTHEWS about 1803. She was born 4 Dec 1781 in NY, USA. Anna died 10 Apr 1810 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 21 Apr 1810 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Anna:
BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
+ 384. m i. Joseph G. SNELL, born about 1803 <See pg. 203>.+ 385. f ii. Delia K. SNELL, born Apr 1804, died 4 Jan 1875 <See pg. 203>.
BURIAL: Rural Park Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA, with her husband.
Known children of George Peter SNELL and Margaret Anna SNELL are:
+ 386. f iii. Nancy SNELL, born 22 Oct 1812, died 11 Jan 1899 <See pg. 204>.+ 387. m iv. Aaron SNELL, born 14 Jul 1814, died 4 Apr 1896 <See pg. 204>.+ 388. m v. Daniel SNELL, born 18 Jan 1816, died 16 Jul 1899 <See pg. 205>.+ 389. m vi. Reuben SNELL, born 10 Apr 1818, died 12 Nov 1847 <See pg. 206>.+ 390. m vii. Luke SNELL, born 2 Mar 1820, died 26 Apr 1902 <See pg. 206>.
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+ 391. m viii. Jeremiah G. SNELL, born 18 May 1822, died 20 Feb 1904 <See pg. 207>.+ 392. m ix. Isaac K. SNELL, Dr., born 26 Mar 1825 <See pg. 208>.+ 393. f x. Margaret SNELL, born 20 Sep 1828, died 30 Dec 1916 <See pg. 208>.394. m xi. Cornelius SNELL, born 6 Aug 1831 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, died 1 Aug 1835, and was buried 4 Aug 1835 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
80. Suffrenus P.6 SNELL <See pg. 17> (Susannah5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 26 Jun 1784 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, and was christened 27 Jun 1784 in German Flatts, Herkimer Co., NY. He was the son of Pieter Jost SNELL and Susannah (Anna) KILTS. Suffrenus died 23 Sep 1872 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 25 Sep 1872 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Suffrenus:
BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY.
BAPTISM: Recorded: Reformed Church, T-German Flatts, Herkimer Co., NY. Parents: "Pieter Snell, Anna". Sponsors: "Severinus Snell, Anna Eva".
MILITARY: War of 1812. Stationed at Sacketts Harbor, T-Hounsfield, Jefferson Co., NY USA.
BURIAL: Lower Snells Bush Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
TOMBSTONE: Aged 88 years 3 months.
He married Eve FRY 1807. She was born 9 Oct 1787 in Ephratah, Fulton Co., NY. She was the daughter of Adam FRY and Anna HOERING. Eve died 30 Jul 1867 in Manheim, Herkimer, NY, USA, and was buried 1 Aug 1867 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Eve:
BIRTH: Tillaborough (near Ephratah), T-Ephratah, Fulton Co., NY.
DEATH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.
BURIAL: Lower Snells Bush Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA, with her husband .
+ 395. m i. Peter SNELL, born 26 Nov 1807, died 1 Nov 1843 <See pg. 209>.396. f ii. Anna SNELL, born 10 Jul 1809 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, died 10 Jan 1831 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1831 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.MARRIAGE: Unmarried.
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+ 397. m iii. Levi SNELL, born 20 Jan 1811, died 30 Sep 1895 <See pg. 210>.+ 398. m iv. Enoch SNELL, born 20 Nov 1812, died 10 Nov 1901 <See pg. 210>.399. f v. Eliza SNELL, born 27 Apr 1814 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, christened about 1814 in Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY, USA, died 30 Sep 1815 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 2 Oct 1815 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.BAPTISM: Trinity Lutheran Church, Stone Arabia, T-Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY USA. Parents: "Severinus Schnell and Eva". Sponsors: "Daniel Schnell and Johannetje Frey". Baptized as "Elise".BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.+ 400. f vi. Phoebe SNELL, born 20 Oct 1815, died 21 Apr 1912 <See pg. 211>.401. f vii. Emily SNELL, born 31 Jan 1819 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, died 26 Sep 1836 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 29 Sep 1836 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.BAPTISM: Reformed Church, Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA. Sponsors: George P. Snell and Peggy, his wife.BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.+ 402. f viii. Elizabeth "Betsey" SNELL, born 31 Jan 1821, died 2 Mar 1904 <See pg. 212>.+ 403. m ix. Jehoram SNELL, born 31 Jul 1823, died 31 Oct 1907 <See pg. 212>.404. m x. Edwin SNELL, born 14 Jan 1825 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, died 23 Apr 1842 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA, and was buried 26 Apr 1842 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, USA.BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.BURIAL: Snells Bush Reformed Church Cemetery, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY USA.+ 405. m xi. Sofirus SNELL, born 27 May 1827, died 31 May 1860 <See pg. 213>.+ 406. f xii. Elvina SNELL, born 27 May 1827, died 5 Apr 1891 <See pg. 214>.
81. Anna (Nancy) P.6 SNELL <See pg. 17> (Susannah5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 2 Jun 1787 in Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY, and was christened 13 Jun 1787 in German Flatts, Herkimer Co., NY, USA. She was the daughter of Pieter Jost SNELL and Susannah (Anna) KILTS. Anna died 26 Apr 1875 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA, and was buried 28 Apr 1875 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Anna:
BIRTH: Snells Bush, T-Manheim, Herkimer Co., NY.
BAPTISM: Recorded: Reformed Church, German Flatts, Herkimer Co., NY.
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Parents: "Pieter Jost Snell". (No mother listed.) Sponsors: "Pieter Snell, Anna Eva Giels".
DESCENDANTS: (DKM) An obituary reports she left 181 descendants and comments that her mother, Anna Kilts wife of Peter Snell, had left 426 descendants at her death.
DEATH: T-Minden, Montgomery Co., NY USA.
BURIAL: Mount Hope Cemetery, Fords Bush, Minden, Montgomery Co., NY USA.
She married Conrad William ZIMMERMAN 6 May 1804 in NY, USA. He was born 29 Jan 1785 in St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY, and was christened 6 Feb 1785. He was the son of William Conrad ZIMMERMAN and Catharine Jacob FAILING. Conrad died 9 Mar 1855 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA, and was buried 11 Mar 1855 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Conrad:
BURIAL: Mount Hope Cemetery, Fords Bush, T-Minden, Montgomery Co., NY USA.
+ 407. f i. Catharine ZIMMERMAN, born 28 Aug 1804, died 14 Oct 1867 <See pg. 215>.+ 408. f ii. Mary ZIMMERMAN, born 28 Feb 1806, died 25 Jul 1882 <See pg. 216>.409. f iii. Eva ZIMMERMAN, born 16 Jun 1807. She married Melchior L. BAUDER 23 Oct 1850. He was born 30 Aug 1795 in Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY, USA, and was christened 6 Sep 1795 in Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. He was the son of Leonard BAUDER and Maria NELLIS. Melchior also married (2) ________ WIFE. She was born about 1795. Melchior died 13 Jun 1881, and was buried 16 Jun 1881 in St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. Notes for Melchior:BAPTISM: Recorded: Reformed Church, Stone Arabia, T-Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY USA. Parents: Leonhardt Baader, Maria Nelles. Sponsors: "Melchior Baader, Elisabeth V. Slyk, nee Ledder, widow."BURIAL: West St. Johnsville Cemetery, St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY USA. Eva died 5 Jul 1877, and was buried 8 Jul 1877 in St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. Notes for Eva:MARRIAGE: She was the second wife of Melchoir Bauder.BURIAL: West St. Johnsville Cemetery, St. Johnsville, Montgomery Co., NY USA.+ 410. f iv. Lydia ZIMMERMAN, born 2 May 1809 <See pg. 217>.+ 411. m v. Levi ZIMMERMAN, born 2 Jun 1811, died 11 Apr 1881 <See pg. 217>.+ 412. m vi. Richard ZIMMERMAN, born 31 Mar 1813, died 1 Jan 1897 <See pg. 218>.+ 413. m vii. Peter ZIMMERMAN, born 9 Mar 1815 <See pg. 220>.+ 414. f viii. Anna ZIMMERMAN, born 28 Mar 1817, died 2 Sep 1895 <See pg. 220>.+ 415. f ix. Elizabeth ZIMMERMAN, born 30 Mar 1819, died 28 Dec 1883 <See pg. 221>.416. f x. Lany ZIMMERMAN, born 22 Dec 1820, died 8 Jul 1831.DEATH: Family lore said death was from eating cherries.
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+ 417. m xi. William ZIMMERMAN, born 16 Jan 1823, died 20 Oct 1903 <See pg. 221>.418. m xii. James ZIMMERMAN, born 22 May 1825 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA, died 30 Mar 1842 in Tonawanda, Erie Co., NY, USA.DEATH: "Died after being kicked by a horse." (CTS)+ 419. m xiii. Charles ZIMMERMAN, born 20 Apr 1827, died 28 Sep 1900 <See pg. 222>.420. m xiv. Jacob ZIMMERMAN, born 9 Jun 1830 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. He married (1) Mary C. BELLINGER. She was born 1 Aug 1830. Mary died 15 Feb 1872 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1872 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. Notes for Mary:BURIAL: Fords Bush Cemetery, T-Minden, Montgomery Co., NY USA, with her husband and his second wife.Jacob married (2) Sarah FOX. She was born 12 Feb 1850 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. She was the daughter of Charles FOX and Katherine SUITS. Sarah died 24 Jun 1935 in Oppenheim, Fulton Co., NY, USA, and was buried 27 Jun 1935 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. Notes for Sarah:BURIAL: Fords Bush Cemetery, T-Minden, Montgomery Co., NY USA, with her husband and his first wife. Jacob died 3 Mar 1909 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA, and was buried Mar 1909 in Minden, Montgomery Co., NY, USA. Notes for Jacob:NOTE: Jacob adopted Anna Dockey, daughter of Charles Dockey (RIN #23478), son of Jacob's sister Anna. "She, Anna Dockey, (now: Zimmerman) was born at West Troy, Rensselaer Co., NY USA. She never married and is buried in Fords Bush Cemetery, with Jacob and his two wives. Anna was a cripple, injured when she fell from a horse, and could not walk alone but got along by pushing a chair in front of her."BURIAL: Fords Bush Cemetery, T-Minden, Montgomery Co., NY USA, with his two wives.
82. John "John of Sharon"6 EMPIE, Jr. <See pg. 19> (Anna5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 10 Feb 1775 in Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY, and was christened in NY, USA. He was the son of Johannes EMPIE and Anna Maria KILTS. John, Jr. died 26 Nov 1863 in Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY, USA, and was buried 29 Nov 1863 in Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for John, Jr.:
BIRTH: Edith Becker, p 3 says: "John of Sharon", b. 2-10 1775, d. 11-26-1863" Tombstone reads: "John Empie, Feb 10, 1775 - Nov. 26, 1863" "Mary Taily, his wife, died Apr. 9, 1807, aged 27 yrs." "Sophia Shafer, his wife, Mar 17, 1789 - Sep 17, 1865."
NOTE: Known as "John of Sharon" Empie.
DOCUMENTATION: Edith Becker's genealogy of the Empie Family published before 1962 places "John of Sharon" in the family of Johan Jacob Empey, who was the youngest son of Johannes Empie and Elizabeth Snell. E. Keith Fitzgerald in his 1984 genealogy and David Kendall Martin's, SNELL FAMILY, p. 53, have followed Mrs. Becker's lead, both also listing John as the oldest son of Johan Jacob and Barbara Bayer. (BEG)
(BEG) However, my family tradition has always been Kilts oriented, saying that he was the son of Johannes Empie and Anna Maria Kilts.
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We now have 3 pieces of evidence that prove that the latter placement is correct. Since no churchbook birth record could be found for John's birth in 1775 (possibly because of the upheaval in the area where he was born due to the Revolutionary War), other records were needed for proof of his parentage. With the help of David Kendall Martin, the original documentation that Edith Becker used was re-examined. It was at once evident that the entry had been mis-quoted. The reference, AMERICAN ANCESTRY, Vol. II:36, 1887 reads:
"Empie, Marcus William of Churchtown, b. 1824 (m. 1846 Sarah A. Kling); son of John of Sharon, NY, b. 1775, d. 1864 (m. Sophia Shaver); son of John of Palatine, b. 1744, d. 1824 (m. ______ Snell); of Huguenot descent."
This quote clearly puts John of Sharon in the family of John of Palatine, not in the family of his brother, Jacob. (Note that the author has confused the two Johannes Empies and has listed the wife of John of Palatine as "______ Snell," when she was in fact the wife of Johannes' father, Johannes Empie of Stone Arabia.) (BEG)
The deeds for the original Sharon Empie farm also provide evidence for this placement. The first deed covers the sale, for the sum of $200.00, of 100 acres of land designated as part of Lot 14 of the Lawyers' Patent. The indenture was contracted between "John Empea, of the Town of Sharon in the County of Schoharie and the State of New York, Farmer, party of the first part, and my son John Empea, Jr., of the above mentioned place aforesaid, Farmer, of the second part." This deed was dated, July 24, 1807. The second deed read the same, but covered the sale of Lot 13 and was dated February 20, 1815. The dates on these two deeds make it impossible for Johan Jacob to have been the John Empea who sold the farm to his son, for Johan Jacob was killed at the Battle of Oriskany in August of 1777, 30 years earlier! (BEG)
There is one other piece of evidence which helps establish John's parentage. It is contained in a story handed down through the Empie family and recorded by Grace Diefendorf Empie in her family record, WHO'S WHO TO ME.
"John Empie's father, with his little son, John, was near Schoharie Fort one day when he realized unfriendly Indians were following him. He stealthily hid little John under the potato vines in the field, then went right on through the field. The Indians caught him and scalped him without hitting him in the head first, as they usually did. As soon as possible, he crawled to the Fort and told them of his son. They at once went to the potato field, and found the little boy patiently lying under the vines waiting for his father's return as he had been told to do."
This story could not have happened if Jacob had been the father of the little boy, John, because John, born Feb 10, 1775, would have been about 2 1/2 years of age when Jacob died, Aug 7, 1777 at Oriskany. For a child that young to be that far from home the summer of 1777 (when potato vines were thick) was unlikely, and it would be even more unlikely that a 2 year old could lie hiding for a long period of time without crying or moving. It would, however, be possible for an older child to do so. (Barbara Empie Greene)
MARRIAGE: # 1 - Date of marriage, 6 Sep 1803, is listed in Cady Records, I-269.
# 2 - Recorded: Reformed Church, Lawyersville, T-Cobleskill, Schoharie Co., NY USA. "John Empie married to Sophia Shaver".
DOCUMENTATION: HISTORY OF SCHOHARIE CO., 1882, by Wm. E. Roscoe, p xii, reads: "Gideon Empie, whose father is John I. Empie." Gideon Empie was John of Sharon's son by his second wife, Sophia Shafer. It was John of Sharon's son by his first wife, Mary Taily, who was named John Isaac Empie, and was always referred to as "John I. Empie", whereas his father was known as "John Empie of Sharon". (BEG)
BIOGRAPHICAL: Accounts of John of Sharon and his son, John Isaac, are given by Rev. Marcus Kling, in the book, "A REUNION OF MINISTERS AND CHURCHES, HELD AT GARDNERVILLE, May 14-17, 1881," Pub. Philadelphia, Pa., Lutheran Publication Society, 1881. Under the section, p. 162, "Memories of our Departed", Rev. Kling writes: JOHN EMPIE
In some respects he was a remarkable man; and divine grace made him just what he was, a burning shining light in the world and a power in the church. As early as 1808, being then about thirty-three years of age, after a long and fearful struggle, he found Christ precious to his soul. At that period, as related by him, spiritual darkness hung over the churches, and
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experimental piety was unthought of by the many and professed by very few. Hence in his troubled state of mind, he hardly knew the nature of his anxieties, whom to consult, or where to find relief. But the Lord by His spirit was surely leading him in the way he knew not of, and finally brought him into the light and liberty of the gospel of Christ. He was remarkable for his unwavering, undeviating perseverance in the course of piety from that time till the day of his death. With him religion was a living, controlling principle, to be carried out in all the activities and relations of life. That responsibility he accepted, and in a remarkable degree carried out, without turning to the right or the left. He was remarkable for the controlling and lasting influence he exerted over others; probably no other lay member in the church excelled him in this respect. He had this power with men because he had power with God, and lived pre-eminently a holy life.
Twenty years after his conversion, at the time brother Wieting became his pastor, he found him one of the few praying souls in the church. He labored and prayed until he saw multitudes around him converted and gathered into the church; and when he died, he not only saw his own children, but nearly all his children's children, members of the flock of Christ. Though he passed away from earth some eighteen years ago, to reap the rewards of heaven, his influence on earth remains, and will continue through future generations." (The church referred to here was the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Seward at Gardnersville, NY, Philip Wieting Pastor.) (Barbara Empie Greene)
CHILDREN: Children of John Empie of Sharon were born on the Empie farm, part of which is now Slate Hill Cemetery, Town of Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY. John's father, Johannes Empie, moved to Sharon from Stone Arabia in about 1800 where all of his children including John had been born. He sold the Sharon farm to son John on 24 July 1807, just before John's first wife, Mary Tally died. Thus, John was living there after 1807 and all of his children by his second wife, Sophia Shaver (Shafer) would have been born there.
BURIAL: Slate Hill Cemetery, T-Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY USA.
He married (1) Mary TAILY 6 Sep 1803. She was born 1780. Mary died 9 Apr 1807 in Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY, USA, and was buried Apr 1807 in Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Mary:
BURIAL: Slate Hill Cemetery, T-Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY USA.
SURNAME: According to Barbara (Empie) Greene, her name is spelled as "Taily" on her tombstone. (Sometimes the surname is spelled "Daily" or "Tailey".)
+ 421. f i. Catherine "Katy" EMPIE, born 31 Dec 1800, died 31 May 1876 <See pg. 223>.+ 422. m ii. Abraham (Abram) EMPIE, born 29 Aug 1804, died 30 Dec 1892 <See pg. 224>.+ 423. m iii. John Isaac EMPIE, born 1807, died 5 Mar 1878 <See pg. 225>.John, Jr. married (2) Sophia SHAFER 25 Oct 1808 in Cobleskill, Schoharie Co., NY, USA. She was born 17 Mar 1791 in Schoharie, Schoharie Co., NY, USA, and was christened 10 Apr 1791 in Schoharie, Schoharie Co., NY, USA. She was the daughter of Marcus SCHAEFFER and Annaje KNISKERN. Sophia died 17 Sep 1865 in Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY, USA, and was buried 20 Sep 1865 in Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY, USA.NOTES for Sophia:BIRTH: Gravestone of John Empie reads: "Sophia Shafer, his wife, Mar 17, 1789 - Sept 17, 1865."
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PARENTS: (Barbara Empie Greene) Uncertain. Was she the daughter of Marcus Schaeffer and Annaje Kniskern of Schoharie? They had a daughter, Sophia, baptized in 1791, who would be about the right age, but there are difficulties with this placement because of the dates involved. That baptism was recorded as follows:BAPTISM: Recorded: St. Paul's Lutheran Church, Schoharie, Schoharie Co., NY USA. Sophia, b. 17 Mar 1791, bp. 10 Apr 1791. Parents: "Marcus Schaeffer, Anna" Sponsors: "Johannes Kniskern, Sofia Kniskern"If this is the same Sophia and she was actually born in 1789, as per tombstone, then there is an unusually long time between her birth and baptism. On the other hand, perhaps the tombstone date is in error. We know that the gravestone was erected at least 45 years after Sophia's death, since it also lists the dates of death for her son, Gideon, and his wife. By then the correct date of her birth may have been forgotten. (BEG)MARRIAGE: There is a marriage recorded at the Reformed Church of Lawyersville, T-Cobleskill, Schoharie Co., NY (formerly German Reformed Church in New Rhinebeck, T-Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY.): "John Empie married Sophia Shaver, 25 Oct 1808."Is this a record for the marriage of the Sophia born 1789, or of Sophia, born 1791, or are both Sophias the same person? There are several indications that these two Sophias might be one and the same.1. We can find no records of a birth for another Sophia in this time frame.2. It is highly unlikely that 2 Sophias would marry 2 John Empies about the same time, especially since we can find no record of a second marriage, or a John Empie of the right age who was unmarried in 1808.3. The second son in Sophia and John Empie of Sharon's family is named "Marcus." This was the first time this named appeared in the Empie family, but it is the name of the father of the Sophia born in 1791.Until evidence is found to the contrary, we are placing Sophia as a daughter of Marcus Schaeffer. (HWW)CHILDREN: Grace Empie's records list Gideon, Rev. Marcus, Mariah, Nancy and Sophia as children of John Empie and Sophia Shaver.BURIAL: Slate Hill Cemetery, T-Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY USA. Spelling of surname on tombstone is "Shafer". (BEG)
+ 424. f iv. Maria (Mariah) EMPIE, born 20 Mar 1809, died 1892 <See pg. 227>.425. f v. Anna Nancy EMPIE, born 13 Dec 1810 in Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY, USA, christened 16 Jan 1811. She married Henry FREDERICK in NY, USA. He was born 1810. Henry died 1899. Anna died 1889 in Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY, USA, and was buried 1889 in Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY, USA. Notes for Anna:DOCUMENTATION: Family Records, compiled by Grace Diefendorf Empie, p. 5, also THE EMPIE FAMILY, compiled by Edith Van Heusen Becker: Edith Becker's THE EMPIE FAMILY, family of John of Sharon and wife, Sophia Shafer, shows 5 children including a child "Anna, born 12-13-1810, baptized 1-6-11", but no Nancy. Grace Empie's records show a Nancy Empie who married Grace Empie's records show a Nancy Empie who married Henry Frederick as one of the 5 children of John of Sharon, but no Anna. Since Nancy Empie's Slate Hill gravestone lists her as born 1810 and the wife of Henry Frederick, we know that Nancy existed.We believe that Nancy and Anna are the same child, Nancy and Anna being possible variations of the same name (BEG).MARRIAGE: Grace Empie's records say Nancy Empie married a Henry Frederick.
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TOMBSTONE: Tombstone, Slate Hill, "Nancy Empie (1810-1889), wife of Henry Frederick".+ 426. f vi. Sophia E. EMPIE, born 13 Jan 1813, died 9 Mar 1891 <See pg. 229>.+ 427. m vii. Gideon EMPIE, born 31 Jan 1816, died 28 Apr 1910 <See pg. 230>.+ 428. m viii. Marcus William EMPIE, Rev., born 31 Mar 1824 <See pg. 231>.
83. Petrus E.6 EMPIE <See pg. 19> (Anna5, Johann4, Johann3, Johann2, Hanss1) was born 21 Feb 1779 in Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY, and was christened 1 Mar 1779 in Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY. He was the son of Johannes EMPIE and Anna Maria KILTS. Petrus died 28 Apr 1850 in Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY, USA, and was buried 30 Apr 1850 in Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY, USA.
NOTES for Petrus:
BAPTISM: Recorded: Trinity Lutheran Church, Stone Arabia, T-Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY. Parents: "Johann Empie Jr, Anna Maria". Sponsors: "Petrus Kiltz, Anna Empien".
MARRIAGE: We have a marriage date of 6 July 1806, but do not know the source of the information, so it is listed here for informational purposes and possible verification at a later date.
DEATH: In 1991 Barbara Empie Greene traveled to Sharon and visited the Slate Hill Cemetery, writing down from tombstones the names and dates of Empies buried there. Among those was Peter Empie, "d. April 28, 1850, 73 years." She noted that the DAR records for this cemetery either did not list some of the names on her list, or did not list the dates completely.
BURIAL: Slate Hill Cemetery, T-Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY USA. "Peter E., Died 1850, Ae 73 yrs." This does not jibe with his birth date. (Age should be 71 years and not 73 years.)
BIOGRAPHICAL: From an article in BIOGRAPHICAL REVIEW, p 193. Peter Empie, Sr., grandfather of John G. spent his 77 years of life on the old homestead in Sharon, Schoharie Co., NY, working as a farmer through <
